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| * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | * Torque range and accuracy to cover all fasteners on a Sportster: It's safe to say you'll need at least three torque wrenches minimal. \\ 1/4" drive for inch pound wrench for small bolts. \\ 3/8" drive foot/pound for general bolts. \\ 1/2" drive foot/pound wrench for larger torque applications. \\ 3/4" drive foot/pound wrench is very help on the sprocket shaft. | ||
| - | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34140)) \\ | + | Most torque wrenches that measure in ft/lbs don't go down low enough for small fasteners like primary/cam cover bolts etc. ((Folkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/sportster-motorcycle-engine-conversions/20633-low-inch-pound-torque-wrench?t=34140)) \\ |
| And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | And most torque wrenches aren't accurate at the very bottom of their range. \\ | ||
| The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | The accuracy increases as you get up past from 20% or so of the scale on the wrench. \\ | ||
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| You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | You do not just have to have a click type torque wrench. There are beam type torque wrenches out there as well. \\ | ||
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| ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ====== Types of Torque Wrenches ====== | ||
| ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ===== Dial Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | The dial torque wrench is designed for quick calibration. ((https://www.diynetwork.com/how-to/skills-and-know-how/tools/torque-wrenches)) \\ | ||
| To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | To use the wrench, set the inside dial to zero and the outside dial to the desired torque value. \\ | ||
| The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | The turn the wrench until the two dials line up. \\ | ||
| - | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1688133)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs | | + | | CDI (Snap-On) dial torque wrench. ((photo by wachuko of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build?t=1688133)) ((https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/157717-my-2013-hd-forty-eight-build/page5?postcount=61#post3772906)) \\ 0-250 in/lbs || |
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| ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ===== Clicker Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| * As its name suggests, the clicking torque wrench clicks when the desired torque is reached. \\ Before turning the wrench, you set the handle to a specific torque. \\ When a clicker wrench is pulled to the point of the torque setting, the lever inside the wrench rolls over a cam and hits the inside of the wrench handle wall. \\ This effect makes the “click” sound, and tells the operator that they have reached the desired torque value. | * As its name suggests, the clicking torque wrench clicks when the desired torque is reached. \\ Before turning the wrench, you set the handle to a specific torque. \\ When a clicker wrench is pulled to the point of the torque setting, the lever inside the wrench rolls over a cam and hits the inside of the wrench handle wall. \\ This effect makes the “click” sound, and tells the operator that they have reached the desired torque value. | ||
| * The typical click-type torque wrench comes with a manual adjustable setting on the handle and typically have a ratchet head just like a socket wrench. | * The typical click-type torque wrench comes with a manual adjustable setting on the handle and typically have a ratchet head just like a socket wrench. | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clicker_type_torque_wrenches_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:tools:clicker_type_torque_wrenches_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\ | ||
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| ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ===== Beam Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| * Beam style torque wrenches contain a floating handle, with allows the handle to pivot as you turn the wrench. | * Beam style torque wrenches contain a floating handle, with allows the handle to pivot as you turn the wrench. | ||
| * The bar bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. | * The bar bends at a controlled rate with added pressure. \\ The point moves along a graduated gauge to indicate the amount of torque applied. \\ When the gauge reaches the required torque, you stop turning the wrench. | ||
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| - | | 3/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photos by dezzertrat of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1860581&page=2)) \\ Range: 0-300 ft/lbs || | + | | 3/4" Drive - Beam Torque Wrench ((photos by dezzertrat of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/173328-77-xlt-teardown-and-rebuild/page2?t=1860581&page=2)) \\ Range: 0-300 ft/lbs || |
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| ===== Digital (electronic) Type Wrench ===== | ===== Digital (electronic) Type Wrench ===== | ||
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| * An electronic torque wrench displays a torque value on a digital screen. ((https://www.hextechnology.com/articles/clicker-wrench-guide/)) \\ | * An electronic torque wrench displays a torque value on a digital screen. ((https://www.hextechnology.com/articles/clicker-wrench-guide/)) \\ | ||
| * Electronic (indicating) torque wrenches, have a strain gauge attached to the torsion rod. | * Electronic (indicating) torque wrenches, have a strain gauge attached to the torsion rod. | ||
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| ===== Torque Screwdrivers ===== | ===== Torque Screwdrivers ===== | ||
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| * For very small torques, it is common to use a torque screwdriver rather than a torque wrench. | * For very small torques, it is common to use a torque screwdriver rather than a torque wrench. | ||
| ====== What's the Best Type Torque Wrench to Use on a Sportster? ====== | ====== What's the Best Type Torque Wrench to Use on a Sportster? ====== | ||
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| That's a loaded question. The best answer is whichever one works. \\ | That's a loaded question. The best answer is whichever one works. \\ | ||
| * Beam, Dial or even Digital torque wrenches are more consistent in their designed use than Clicker type torque wrenches. | * Beam, Dial or even Digital torque wrenches are more consistent in their designed use than Clicker type torque wrenches. | ||
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| ===== Drive Adapters ===== | ===== Drive Adapters ===== | ||
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| * Torque wrenches come with a variety of drive point sizes. Of course, so do sockets. Unless you have a full shop of tools, it can be cost effective to use adapters to give you the flexibility in using the same sockets with different drive wrenches. | * Torque wrenches come with a variety of drive point sizes. Of course, so do sockets. Unless you have a full shop of tools, it can be cost effective to use adapters to give you the flexibility in using the same sockets with different drive wrenches. | ||
| * It's also important at times to be able to get to certain spots with smaller O.D. wrenches with the help from adapters as a (1/4" drive) 1/2" socket will probably be a smaller outside diameter than 3/8" or 1/2" drive in the same bolt size. | * It's also important at times to be able to get to certain spots with smaller O.D. wrenches with the help from adapters as a (1/4" drive) 1/2" socket will probably be a smaller outside diameter than 3/8" or 1/2" drive in the same bolt size. | ||
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| | This homemade extension is nice. You will need to recalculate torque if used this way. ||| | | This homemade extension is nice. You will need to recalculate torque if used this way. ||| | ||
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| - | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ | + | ^ Homemade Wrench Extension for in-frame applications ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2)) ^^^ |
| - | |This setup also extends the drive end of the wrench and you'll have to calculate for the correct torque. \\ 1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|| | + | |This setup also extends the drive end of the wrench and you'll have to calculate for the correct torque. \\ 1/2 torque wrench (L) inside a pull handle wrench (minus the handle). 3/4" drive torque wrench (R) with 1/2" adapter and a socket to fit the \\ square shank of the 1/2" wrench. You can torque to about 140 foot pounds with this contraption but you have to keep straight alignment with the \\ 2 wrenches or actual torque on the nut will change. This is Not a proper tool setup but it will work with lower torque values. ((Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2))|| |
| - | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | | + | |{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_1_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2))|{{techtalk:ref:tools:torque-wrench-lever_2_by_hopper.jpg?direct&400|}} | |
| - | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ | + | ^ This application is used to adapt a 1/2" drive socket for use with a 3/4" drive torque wrench. Really! ((photos by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools/page2?t=395586&page=2)) ^^ |
| | Here is another way to make a drive end extension. This also needs to be calculated before using. ||| | | Here is another way to make a drive end extension. This also needs to be calculated before using. ||| | ||
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| - | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2074329)) ||| | + | ^ Dial type torque wrench with box end wrench extension. ((photo by The Doctor71 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/197656-cylinder-base-nut-question?t=2074329)) ||| |
| ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ===== Swivels (or universal joint) ===== | ||
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| ===== Crows Foot ===== | ===== Crows Foot ===== | ||
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| [[techtalk:ref:tools025#drive_extensions_horizontal_to_the_wrench|Click here for more information on calculating the correct torque]] if not using a crows foot at 90° in the Sportsterpedia. | [[techtalk:ref:tools025#drive_extensions_horizontal_to_the_wrench|Click here for more information on calculating the correct torque]] if not using a crows foot at 90° in the Sportsterpedia. | ||
| - | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Using a crows foot on a torque wrench ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | + | | Flare nut crows foot. \\ Tight corners for non-slip function. ((photo by Hopper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/63858-special-tools?t=395586)) | Cheap crows foot. \\ Rounded corners can slip. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Using a crows foot on a torque wrench ((photo by Hippysmack)) | |
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