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techtalk:ref:tools032 [2022/03/27 01:47] – [Metric Nut/Bolt Threads] hippysmacktechtalk:ref:tools032 [2024/01/23 01:55] (current) – hippysmack
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 ====== Measuring Threads In General ====== ====== Measuring Threads In General ======
 +**Thread TPI or Pitch**: \\
 You can purchase a cheap template with different size threads to size screws/bolts or go by your local hardware store to use theirs. \\ You can purchase a cheap template with different size threads to size screws/bolts or go by your local hardware store to use theirs. \\
 But you don't really need one to accurately find the size of most bolts or thread patterns. \\ But you don't really need one to accurately find the size of most bolts or thread patterns. \\
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 You can buy tap/drill and metric conversion charts pretty cheap online or at some bolt or hardware stores. \\ You can buy tap/drill and metric conversion charts pretty cheap online or at some bolt or hardware stores. \\
-Then hang them up in your shop where you can always find them when needed. \\ +Then hang them up in your shop where you can always find them when needed. \\ 
 + 
 +**Bolt/Screw Length**: \\ 
 +Length is measured from the very end of a bolt/screw to where the fastened surface is assumed to be. \\ 
 +Panhead screws / hex bolts / cap screws etc. are measured from under the head to the end. \\ 
 +Flat head screws, tapered shanks under the head, are measured for overall end to end length (head is assumed to end flush with fastened piece). \\ 
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 +|  Measuring length ((composite of photos used with permission))  | 
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 |SAE thread gauge: ((photos by Hippysmack))||Tap/drill and metric conversion charts.| |SAE thread gauge: ((photos by Hippysmack))||Tap/drill and metric conversion charts.|
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 ====== Pitch to TPI Conversion Table ====== ====== Pitch to TPI Conversion Table ======
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 The table below is a reprint from THA ((https://traininghandsacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Pitch-mm-to-TPI-inches-Conversion-Table.pdf)) \\ The table below is a reprint from THA ((https://traininghandsacademy.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Pitch-mm-to-TPI-inches-Conversion-Table.pdf)) \\
  
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 ====== US Nut/Bolt Threads ====== ====== US Nut/Bolt Threads ======
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 US threads generally have 3 numbers although the last can be left off unless required. \\ US threads generally have 3 numbers although the last can be left off unless required. \\
 The first number is a whole number and/or fraction, the second number is the threads per in (TPI), followed by the length in inches. \\ The first number is a whole number and/or fraction, the second number is the threads per in (TPI), followed by the length in inches. \\
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 ====== Metric Nut/Bolt Threads ====== ====== Metric Nut/Bolt Threads ======
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 Metric bolts are written down as an "M" followed by 3 numbers and again the last can be left off unless required.   \\  Metric bolts are written down as an "M" followed by 3 numbers and again the last can be left off unless required.   \\ 
 The first number is the diameter, the second the thread pitch, and the third the length in millimeters. ((http://raygirling.com/metthrpt.htm)) \\ The first number is the diameter, the second the thread pitch, and the third the length in millimeters. ((http://raygirling.com/metthrpt.htm)) \\
 The diameter is the outside diameter of the thread peaks. \\ The diameter is the outside diameter of the thread peaks. \\
  
-In this example of a 10mm bolt; M10x1.25x35 states that the diameter of the threads is 10mm, the thread pitch is 1.25mm and it's 35mm long. \\+In example of a 10mm bolt; M10x1.25x35 states that the diameter of the threads is 10mm, the thread pitch is 1.25mm and it's 35mm long. \\
  
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-|  Metric Thread Pitch  |||| +|  Metric Thread Pitch  ||||| 
-|Thread OD|Inch|Standard Pitch (mm)|Fine Pitch (mm)|Extra Fine Pitch (mm)|+|Thread OD \\ Metric|Thread OD \\ Inches (app)|Standard \\ Pitch (mm)|Fine \\ Pitch (mm)|Extra Fine \\ Pitch (mm)|
 |**4mm**|0.157"|0.70|  -  |  -  | |**4mm**|0.157"|0.70|  -  |  -  |
 |**5mm**|0.197"|0.80|  -  |  -  | |**5mm**|0.197"|0.80|  -  |  -  |
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 |**20mm**|0.787|2.50|  -  |  -  | |**20mm**|0.787|2.50|  -  |  -  |
 |**24mm**|  |3.00|  -  |  -  | |**24mm**|  |3.00|  -  |  -  |
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 +**Methods of measuring in pics**: \\
 +Metric screw thread OD can be deduced by using an imperial (US) scale caliper using the chart above. \\
 +Your measurements may not be an exact match to the dims above but will be close enough to make a judgement on the metric counterpart size. \\
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 +{{:techtalk:ref:tools:measuring_metric_screw_threads_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:tools:measuring_screw_pitch_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Hippysmack)) \\
  
 ====== Common Brake Line Threads ====== ====== Common Brake Line Threads ======
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 ====== NPT Pipe Threads ======  ====== NPT Pipe Threads ====== 
- NPT stands for National Pipe Thread. Descriptions are commonly used as either straight (NPS) or tapered (NPT). ((DR DICK of the XLFORUM  http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) \\+ NPT stands for National Pipe Thread. Descriptions are commonly used as either straight (NPS) or tapered (NPT). ((DR DICK of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/168660-any-thread-experts-around/page2?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) \\
 Pipe thread sizes do not refer to any physical dimension. \\ Pipe thread sizes do not refer to any physical dimension. \\
 NPT has flattened peaks and troughs where BSP is rounded. NPT has a thread angle of 60º where BSP is 55º. \\  NPT has flattened peaks and troughs where BSP is rounded. NPT has a thread angle of 60º where BSP is 55º. \\ 
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 ** Little known fact**: \\ ** Little known fact**: \\
-All iron heads pipe threads used in cases, rocker boxes, and oil pumps are straight female thread, fitted with tapered thread male fittings.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM  http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) \\+All iron heads pipe threads used in cases, rocker boxes, and oil pumps are straight female thread, fitted with tapered thread male fittings.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/168660-any-thread-experts-around/page2?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) \\
 This holds true for Evo Sportsters also. \\ This holds true for Evo Sportsters also. \\
  
-    * The sizes in the chart below are the major dia of the male straight thread (as the pipe OD is the major). \\ And the major dia. of a tapered male thread at it's big end. ((DR DICK of the XLFORUM  http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) +    * The sizes in the chart below are the major dia of the male straight thread (as the pipe OD is the major). \\ And the major dia. of a tapered male thread at it's big end. ((DR DICK of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/168660-any-thread-experts-around/page2?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2)) 
-    * The tapered thread has it's diameter reduced on a taper of .0625" per inch of thread length. Almost all hardware store fittings will be tapered thread.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM  http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2))+    * The tapered thread has it's diameter reduced on a taper of .0625" per inch of thread length. Almost all hardware store fittings will be tapered thread.((DR DICK of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/168660-any-thread-experts-around/page2?t=1810036&highlight=tap+die&page=2))
  
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