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 ====== REF: Electrical System ======
-====== Instruments - Speedo - Tach ======
+====== Lights - Turn Signals - Bulbs, Mods, Relocating ======
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-====== Speedometers ======
+===== Turn Signals =====
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-===== HD Combination Speedo/Tach =====
+Here's a chart of alternative bulbs that can be used in place of 1157 Run/Turn or Run/Brake bulbs:\\
+{{:techtalk:ref:elec:1157-turnsignal-bulb-chart-specs.jpg|}}
-{{  :techtalk:ref:elec:hd-70900274-speedotachcombo.jpg?300|}}((pic from kingchops - XLForum.net - t=2031561))
+====== LED Lighting ======
-==== HD 70900274 ====
+===== Sub Documents =====
-This 4" Combination Digital Speedometer and Analog Sweep Tachometer is offered as an upgrade item and allows you to monitor engine speed, fuel level and gear position, without adding additional handlebar-mounted gauges. See Fitment Info below.
+  * [[techtalk:ref:elec03t|LED VOES Indicator Light Install]]
-  * 4" Spun Aluminum Dial, MPH/km/h, Worldwide Models
+LEDs are not only highly shock resistant but they have a very long lifetime and can be made quite bright (and in many different colors). ((Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077)) \\
-  * Unit mounts in the stock dash opening and is a direct plug-in installation
-  * Backlit gauge includes a large LCD (liquid crystal display) information screen that displays odometer/tripmeter data, miles-to-empty readings, an easy-to-read segmented fuel display, a gear position indicator and clock
-  * Features push-button adjustable backlighting with over 600 color tone options allowing the rider to adjust pointer, LCD and backlighting colors to match any paint scheme or viewing preference
-  * Digital speed reading can be easily toggled between MPH and kph to simplify cross-border travel
-  * Mileage reinstatement resides in the vehicle ECM so initial mileage will be uploaded at the time of installation
-  * 07+ Sportsters require additional Fuel Sensor Kit (HD 61200008) to utilize Fuel Gauge and Range function
-Fitment: Fits '04-'13 XL (except XR, XL50 and '04-'08 XL1200R)\\
+===== Converting to LED Turn Signals =====
-Note: As a result of different vehicle capabilities, the following exceptions apply: Gear position not available on ’04-’07 models, Range function not available on ’04-’06 XL models and ’04-’08 Dyna® models, Fuel level function not available on ’04-’06 XL models.
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+Selecting and mounting the LED turn signals can be fairly easy with many aftermarket options. \\
+However, they may not simply be straight wired in as the OEM bulbs are. \\
+The recommendation is to use a ‘load balancer’. \\
-==== HD 70900475 ====
+If all you do first is replace the bulbs with LED lights, all is normal except the lights don’t blink when you push the turn signal switch. \\
-This 4" Combination Digital Speedometer and Analog Sweep Tachometer allows you to monitor engine speed, fuel level and gear position, without adding additional handlebar-mounted gauges. See Fitment Info below.
+The root cause is that standard bulbs (app around 20-30 watts and 12-14 volts) draw a couple of amps. \\
+Normal electromechanical flashers need an amp or two to flash on and off. \\
+But LEDs draw only a few milliamps, which is not enough to activate the flashers. Hence the edict to use ‘load balancers’. \\
+A load balancer is nothing but a dummy load (or more simply called a resistor). \\
+By installing a resistor in parallel with your light, the resistor acts as a dummy load drawing the amps you need in order to make the flasher work. \\
-Features are as listed above for pre-2014 models.
+**Choosing a resister**: \\
+It's important to understand that each incandescent bulb runs 24w when it flashes. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701)) \\
+You need a 6-ohm resistor to simulate that equiv load. \\
+Using a resistor rated at 10-watts is definitely going to heat up when you run 24-watts of power through it. \\
+You need a 50-watt resistor because components should be spec'd for twice the rating that they will regularly encounter to provide reliability and safety. \\
+You might get away with cutting corners, sometimes, but it's not a good idea as a policy. \\
+You need one 6-ohm, 50-watt resistor to replace each turn signal bulb (that you either eliminate or replace with LED version or mini-bulbs). \\
-Fitment: Fits '14-later XL US models. XL models require separate purchase of Fuel Sensor Kit P/N 61200008A to make use of the fuel level and range function.\\
+Between 1991 and 2007, the total load that each side of the Turn Signal Module is expecting is 2 x 24w = 48w. \\
+That's what it is designed to function with when blinking the TS lights. \\
+The TSM is designed to expect a certain range of amps being drawn by the lights. ((Cosmo Kramer of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077&page=8)) \\
+When a bulb burns out, that changes the amp draw and the TSM blinks fast (instead of not blinking at all as in older models) to notify the rider that there is an issue. \\
+Prior to '91, the turn signal flasher was an automotive type with no intelligence. \\
+From 2007 on, most of the TSMs are smart enough to sense and function with whatever the standard load requires. \\
+(whether incandescent, LED or mini-bulb, without adding load resistors) \\
+If you eliminate or replace (with LEDs) both front & back turn signals on the same side, you can parallel two resistors to obtain a 3-ohm load (equiv to two bulbs). \\
+THAT ONLY REQUIRES ONE CONNECTION TO THE TURN SIGNAL LINE for that side of the bike (no terrorizing of the harness is necessary). \\
+Just make one connection, anywhere along the entire TS wiring, for the resistors to replace the bulbs, on that side of the bike. \\
+(VIOLET wire on LEFT side and/or BROWN wire on the RIGHT side with resistors often placed somewhere under the seat) \\
+So fundamentally use the right parts, install in a nice clean, protected method of connection (solder, shrink-wrap, etc). \\
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+|  Simplified OEM turns. ((drawing by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack))  |  Resister / load balancer inline. ((drawings by Scooter_Trash of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077, redrawn by Hippysmack))  ||
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+|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:led_turn_conversion_1_redrawn_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:led_turn_conversion_2_redrawn_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:led_turn_conversion_3_redrawn_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-{{  :techtalk:ref:elec:fuelsensorkit-61200008a.jpg?300|}}
-==== HD 61200008A XL Fuel Level Sensor Kit ====
-This kit has a graduated, in-tank sensor unit which is based on capacitive sensing technology to accurately monitor the fuel level. Included is a jumper plug to replace the stock resistor pack and a new fuel pump gasket. Specified to be compatible with 70900100C, 70900274 and 70900475, it has been discovered that it is also able to activate the fuel level gauge on the 2016-later 1200CX Roadster speedometer, P/N 70900549. ((XLForum Thread - http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2031561))
-The in-tank sensor provides the fuel level information to the Speedo/Tach LCD display for at-a-glance viewing.
-The sensor produced multiple levels of resistance based on the fuel level, thus elimnating the previous two-level (ok/lo) resistor pack function. The jumper plug shorts socket1 to socket2 of connector 200B, thus grounding the new in-tank sensor. Socket3 of connector 200B is not used and simply plugged.
-**Note:** There have been many reports that it is difficult to make the jumper plug contact pins protrude enough to make contact with the sockets in the 200B connector. Be sure you assemble the jumper correctly and insert the pins sufficiently.
-Additional info at this XLForum Thread:\\
-http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2031561\\
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+The 3-wire flashers have their own ground wire and they should require no load of any sort to function. \\
+The addition of two diodes for the indicator bulb in the configuration shown below should guarantee there is no bleed from one circuit to the other. ((IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701)) \\
-==== VSS - Modification for 1995-2003 12v Sensor ====
+|  3 wire flasher. ((photo by hawk69 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=205077&page=7))  |  Example 86-90 model LED turn signal conversion with 3-wire LED flasher. ((drawings by IXL2Relax of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5396701#post5396701))  ||
+|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:3_wire_led_flasher_by_hawk69.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:86-90_led_turn_signal_conversion_pic_1_by_ixl2relax.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:86-90_led_turn_signal_conversion_pic_2_by_ixl2relax.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-There have been a lot of issues and malfunctions of speedometers in these years. The below modification is intended to raise the voltage under load for the sensor as a possible fix for intermittent malfunctions. ( See [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=800778|this XLForum Thread]] which is related.)
-{{:techtalk:ref:elec:vss-12v-wiring-mod-reliability.jpg?400|}}
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-===== VSS/Speedometer Pulse Rate Converter =====
-The Vehicle Speed Sensor produces a different number of pulses-per-mph between the 883 and 1200 models. The electronic speedometers on 1995-2003 model Sportsters were different between the 883 models and the 1200 models. Beginning in 2004, the VSS signal was sent to the ECM so that the ECM could be programmed to account for the differences between the models and send the right speed information to the speedometer.
-Dakota Digital makes a product (SIM-1) to receive the pulses from the VSS and convert them to the appropriate pulse rate that is expected by the present speedometer. This conversion can help compensate for larger/smaller tires and different final drive ratios (changes in sprockets).\\
-[[http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=1011/category_id=519/mode=prod/prd1011.htm|SIM-1 Product Description]] - [[http://www.dakotadigital.com/pdf/SIM-1.pdf|Install Instructions]]
-Apparently, S&S also had a conversion product (55-1007) that is no longer available.\\
-[[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23665|XLForum Thread]] - [[https://www.sscycle.com/docs/default-source/instruction-sheets/51-1056_speedometecalibrator55-1007_20060427.pdf?sfvrsn=4|Product Install]]
-(As always, the links provided were functional at the time they were listed. Search the web for the product model if the links are inactive.)
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-====== Tachometers ======
-====== Relocating Gauges (Speedo / Tach) ======
-====== Headlight Eyebrow Mounted Gauges ======
-===== The Zena Mod =====
-This is a relatively easy mod to raise the height of your instruments (when using taller risers). \\
-Otherwise, the gauges end up being too tall. \\
-The gauges are removed from the handlebar mount and bolted to the headlight eyebrow using deep chrome sockets. \\
-Cost is under #10. Done carefully, it looks like a factory install. \\
-  * Parts required:
-    * (2) - chrome 8mm deep sockets (may be able to use other sizes)
-    * (4) - stainless steel washers
-    * (2) - 3" stainless steel allen bolts, \\ (same diameter as stock but longer to fit sockets accordingly. 3" bolts used below).
-  * Note: This mod should work without a hitch on the 883 std and 1200R. \\
-    * In some instances, folks have reported that the spacing between the holes on the gauge mount \\ did not line up perfectly with the holes on the eyebrow.
-    * Most were able to quickly remedy the problem with a dremel or other comparable tool. \\
-    * The mod will not work on stock 1200/883 Custom models without additional modification.
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:zena_mod_1_by_xena.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:zena_mod_2_by_xena.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:zena_mod_3_by_xena.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|  Relocating gauges ((photos by xena of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=3883))  |||
-===== Variation of the Zena Mod =====
-|Before. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_1_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|After. ((photos by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_11_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_13_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_12_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Removed upper bar clamp bolts \\ with a 1/4" Allen wrench. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|OEM Handlebar spacers (5736). ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|Added blue Loctite to the handlebar bolts. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_2_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_3_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_4_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Re-installed the bolts without speedo bracket. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|Removed the eyebrow bolts with a 1/2" socket. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|Replaced the OEM bolts with 1/4"x3-1/2" allen head \\ cap bolts. ((photo by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_5_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_6_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_7_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|1/2" O.D.x1/4" I.D. sleeves slid over the bolts with washers under the head. \\ Sleeves go between the eyebrow and the gauge housing. ((photos by Erik of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=320342&page=19))|||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_8_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_9_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_speedo_10_by_erik.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-===== Other Pics of this Mod =====
-|Done on a 2001 1200S. \\ 1/2"x1-3/4" threaded rod couplers painted them black with 3-1/2" grade 8 bolts. ((photos by rokclmb of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=533222))||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_01_1200s_gauges_1_by_rokclmb.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_01_1200s_gauges_2_by_rokclmb.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Done on an 89 883. ((photos by engine of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=350420))||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:89_883_speedo_relocation_1_by_engine.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:89_883_speedo_relocation_2_by_engine.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-====== Riser Mounted Gauges ======
-===== The ReddTigger Mod =====
-Speedo Mount for pullback risers. \\
-The biggest frustration is the angle of the stock mount that's used to mount onto the original handlebar clamp. \\
-  * Parts (total of about $20):
-    * 2 chrome socket head screws.
-    * 2 chrome acorn nuts.
-    * 2 chrome washers.
-    * 2 chrome cable clamps for 1" (or whatever size your risers are).
-    * 2 small pieces of tubing.
-   * Place the tubing in the cable end of the clamp.
-   * Attach clamp to riser as shown below.
-   * Attach speedo using stock bracket (or any of your choice).
-   * Insert socket head screws w/ washers through stock bracket into hose in clamp.
-   * Secure with acorn nuts. \\ (the white stuff around the riser is some white electrical tape to prevent scratching) ((photos by ReddTigger of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50229&page=2))
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_1_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_2_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_3_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-| A bungie cord across the bolts holds a water bottle in the middle ((photos by ReddTigger of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50229))||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_4_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_5_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-|Here's what it looks like with a tach added. ((photos by ReddTigger of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50229))|||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_6_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_7_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:speedo_mount_for_pullback_risers_8_by_reddtigger.jpg?direct&300|}}|
-===== Other Pics of the Mod  =====
-|  Riser mounted cable clamps installed on the risers for guage mounts  ((photos by Choprocker of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3883&highlight=xena+mod&page=10))  ||
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-|  Gauges mounted ((photos by Choprocker of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3883&highlight=xena+mod&page=10))  |||
-|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_gauges_3_by_choprocker.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_gauges_4_by_choprocker.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:elec:relocating_gauges_5_by_choprocker.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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